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Poster: gmcgill Date: Nov 11, 2006 3:14pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

See this thread for some discussion on getting songs into IPOD.

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=66494

I can give you a lot more specific info (I have many downloaded concerts from this site on my IPOD). However, it's not clear what part of the process you're having trouble with. As already noted, what types of files are you trying to add? Have you already downloaded them or are you streaming them? Do you understand the basics of how songs get onto your IPOD (i.e., how to add songs to ITUNES library, how to sync to IPOD from the library, etc.). None of the steps are overly complicated, but can be a little overwhelming the first time you try to do this. This is particularly true if you have no clear idea as to what a flac, shn, vbr mp3, etc. file is, or don't understand what ITUNES/IPOD is actually doing. Nothing wrong with not knowing these things...I didn't either a few years ago. But more info from you will help us help you.


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Poster: Aquinnah Date: Nov 13, 2006 2:46pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Hi,
Thank you so very much for responding! Here's what I've done so far:
I downloaded the files from the Live Internet Archive, using 64Kbps MP3 ZIP to download them. I unzipped the files and now my files are in "My Documents" as winamp files. When I click on the icon, the winamp box pops up and it looks like the front of a stereo/CD player, and I'm able to play the songs.
I thought I'd be able to just import them into my itunes library, but the format must not be right.
What should I do next?
Thanks again!
Jennifer

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Nov 14, 2006 7:10am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Once you know where the files are located on your hard drive, "My documents" you should copy these files into a separate subdirectory. Perhaps go to "my music" and then create a subdirectory with the artist name. Then go into itunes, select FILE from menu bar, then select "ADD FOLDER TO LIBRARY" then point within the directory structure to the new subfolder you created that contains the mp3 files. then click OK and you should see ITUNES adding these files to your library. Then you should sync your ipod to itunes, and the files will be on your IPOD.

p.s. I would strongly recommend that you download the mp3 VBR files instead of the MP3 64k files. The quality is MUCH better.

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Poster: Aquinnah Date: Nov 15, 2006 2:59pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Hi,
This worked perfectly with most of the songs that I wanted to transfer, but I have an unzipped folder in My Documents, and I tried to transfer them into my itunes by adding a folder, and it didn't work....What am I doing wrong? I saved the songs in My Music as well as in My documents and when I click on "add folder to library" the folder doesn't show up, just My Music folder and I don't have a choice as to what will transfer over.
Thanks again for any help.
Jennifer

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Nov 15, 2006 4:14pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Hmmm, not sure what exactly you're doing wrong. Try this: Unzip (or copy) all the files you want on your ipod to the the subdirectory in "my music" that currently contains the files that you know have shown up on the IPOD (i.e., the ones that worked). That is, the directory that you KNOW works because you can see that those songs HAVE showed up in ITUNES and on the IPOD. It doesn't matter if they are different band, etc. as ITUNES will rearrange things to take this into account for you automatically.

Once you've copied files to this directory, then go into itunes, add that directory to your itunes library and you should be set. Don't worry that some of those files are already in your itunes library. itunes is smart enough to know that and will not re-add them.

Bottom line is that if all the songs are added within the "my music" directory (or a subdirectory underneath my music) and within itunes if you select the add folder to library option (and select the "my music" directory), all these songs SHOULD show up in your itunes. Once something is in your itunes library, they will sync to your ipod.

And to reemphasize: if you are taking the trouble to do all this, definitely download the "vbr.mp3" files rather than the 64k mp3 files. The difference is LARGE.

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Poster: Aquinnah Date: Nov 16, 2006 1:50pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Hi,
Thanks so much for your prompt response. I've unzipped every file and now the only file in My Music is all of the unzipped songs. It's still not working...I'm at a total loss as to what could be wrong. I don't have any files in any My documents or My music folders that aren't unzipped...Could they still be in the wrong format even though they're unzipped?

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Nov 16, 2006 2:48pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

what are the file extensions of the unzipped files? Should be mp3. If they are anything else, they are either not song files or are FLAC or SHN files (and if you're having this much troub le with mp3 files, we'll have to save flac and shn files for another day and a much longer tutorial.

Tell us what show you're actually trying to download, so I can look at it and discuss what songs you SHOULD have if it all there.

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Poster: Aquinnah Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Hi again,
When I right click on the song that I've downloaded in My Music, and go to properties, it says that it's a zipped folder, that's all the information that it gives me as far as the type of folder it is. Is there another way I should check the file type?
The songs that I've been downloading are:
Derek Trucks Band: Statesboro Blues, One Way Out (whipping post), and Layla, among others.

Thanks again,
Jen

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:56pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

If it is a zipped folder you need to unzip it first. Tell me the exact date of one of the shows you are trying to download. That way I can look at the same page and give you very specific directions of what to do. In the meantime, let's forget the zip files for the moment. Go to the page with the show, right click on the VBR Mp3 file that you want one song at a time. That is right click on the link to the vbr mp3 file for each specific song, then "save as" or "save target as" and save the file to the "my music" folder where you know where the file is. Then do this for EACH song you want from that show. When you're done you should have all the song files from the show. These should all have extension ".mp3" once you've downloaded all of them. Then go to ITUNES, add that folder to your itunes library, sync your IPOD, and you should be set.

p.s. I won't be responding to any forum postings the next 10 days so I hope you finally get it going. Don't take my lack of responses as ignoring you...i just won't be near a computer.

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Poster: Aquinnah Date: Nov 26, 2006 7:46am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Hi,
I guess I should go back to where you asked me to send you the songs that I wanted to download and send into my itunes library...Here are the links to the songs..

http://www.archive.org/details/dtb2006-10-29.flac.akgc1000

http://www.archive.org/details/dtb2006-11-02.flac

http://www.archive.org/details/dtb1993-07-22.flac16 (ALL songs)

http://www.archive.org/details/dtb1991-05-10.unk.shnf (song number 6)

http://www.archive.org/details/dtb1995-12-01.shnf (song number 14-E Statesboro Blues)

I'm now seeing that most of the songs I want are flac recordings...Not sure how these should be transferred/downloaded.

Hope you had a great Thanksgiving/vacation.

Jennifer

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Nov 27, 2006 4:27am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Aha! That's the issue. You can't simply download flac (or shn) files and play them on your IPOD/ITUNES. These are "lossless" files (that you'll notice are much, much larger than the MP3 files).

After downloading the 'flac' files you'll need to convert them to WAV files and then to MP3 files. You'll need to download the correct software first. Then use this software to convert to a format you can use.

Read this FAQ carefully and follow its instructions.

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#252

For listening to FLAC files, the free version of Winamp and the free FLAC plugin will work fine. I think winamp will play shn files natively, but can't recall at the moment. There may be a shorten plugin for listening to Shorten files for winamp. Just try first and see what happens. For converting to something you can listen to on your IPOD, read the following:

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#255

Download the free program FLAC Frontend, and use this program to convert the flac files to something you can listen to. I can't recall whether it allows you to DECODE straight to MP3 or whether it only decodes to WAV. If only decodes to WAV you must use any other program to convert WAV to mp3 file. For example, your ITUNES will convert the WAV file to mp3 or aac files that will play on itunes/ipod.

for the shorten files (shn) you'll need to convert with another program. The MKW program works fine for this. See the following.

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#256

Warning: none of this will seem particularly user friendly the first few times you do it. Read the FAQs carefully and follow all the steps. You don't seem particularly computer literate (no offense meant) based on your earlier questions. I strongly recommend you grab a friend that knows their way around a computer a little better and ask for some hands on help. Good luck!!


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Poster: Aquinnah Date: Nov 28, 2006 3:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

Hi,
IT WORKED!! :) :)
THANK YOU so very much for being so patient with me and walking me through this process.

Happy Holidays and thanks again!
Jen

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Poster: gmcgill Date: Nov 28, 2006 5:07pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: HELP! - transferring to IPOD

I love a happy ending! And now that you know how things work, be sure to explore all the many bands that are here. I've discovered lots of stuff I would have never known about through the archives.